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What happens when a Catholic host and a sci-fi novelist sit down to tackle one of the internet’s favorite obsessions: aliens? In this conversation with Patrick Abbott, we cut through hype, headlines, and conspiracy talk to ask the real questions—philosophical, theological, and logical. We discuss Obama’s comments, Trump’s promised file releases, Padre Pio’s reported thoughts, and whether intelligent extraterrestrials would create theological problems or simply deepen our understanding of creation.

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This isn’t tinfoil-hat speculation. It’s a clear-headed exploration of possibility, faith, reason, and the danger of turning curiosity into obsession. Whether you think aliens are fiction, fact, or fantasy, this discussion will sharpen how you think about God, creation, and truth. Watch the full conversation and decide for yourself.

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